was in phoenix or the fbi office in phoenix and what do we know about that? >> guest: with this in perspective. the alcohol tobacco and firearms bureau is the main regulator of the firearms of the united states, yet the problem is that legal firearms are used and for crimes. less than 1% involving guns involve the lawfully obtained firearms. murder and so on these are almost always using black market guns so the agency for a long time wanted jurisdiction to expand its operations because -- had the needed to have an area that the lawfully obtained firearms were used to expand the jurisdictions. at the center and the political party also wanted about a recent supreme court case that had identified the second amendment, and they wanted to bring back the gun control so there was an ideological agenda and a career agenda. the operation had been tried on a wide receiver but there were more controls in place and the operation was a failure. it wasn't a dangerous failure as fast and furious but they decided to double their mistake early in the obama year. how far it